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Post by Filmmaker82 on Mar 5, 2003 4:54:20 GMT -5
I agree, I think a marrige of both the "is it real?" and the cinematic movie approaches is important... what do you all think? should we create a cinematic trailer or a more "what the hell is that-I can't believe it's happening-it's real!" sort of trailer?
Oded.
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Post by matt folwell on Mar 5, 2003 8:46:58 GMT -5
how about both kinds of trailers using the same material but edited in different ways one with a score and one without maybe.
i know u didn't want a score until the final part of the film but u could use 1 on a trailer, ive watched psycho about 5 times this week just so i can do a review and a really simple but intimidating score might work wonders on the audiences nerves.
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Post by Filmmaker82 on Mar 5, 2003 8:51:59 GMT -5
Hey Matt, my intent was not to use a score in the film till the very last minutes but as for the trailer - I think it needs and MUST have a score! so...yeah, you're right.
Anyway, funny thing happened to me last night - I was going over a few DV tapes while sorting out my equipment and found one with some footage shot through my bedroom window of about 6-9 lights in the sky above a forest near my house - it's a beautiful continuous shot of these lights switching places, disappearing - reappearing, I remembered that while I was filming it I thought to my self that it would be useful one day if I ever need that "light in the sky" shot...guess that day's here, I'm going to digitize it tomorrow and perhaps put a few pics from it (if not the whole shot) online...we'll see how it goes. Oded.
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Post by mattfolwell on Mar 8, 2003 11:35:44 GMT -5
hey oded, i just went to indieclub (gotta keep it near the top) and saw your last message and came st8 here, thats so kool...maybe other ppl who have old footage or access to archive footage could find something brilliant..it would be helpful 4 those who wanna do something but cant as they're involved in something else....what do you think?
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Post by Bushy on Mar 8, 2003 11:55:51 GMT -5
Lights in the sky. I have a small problem with this. From what I have read the idea of this film is to keep what is coming fairly ambiguous (right?) however lights in the sky completely blows any hope for ambiguity out of the water. Why you may ask? Simple - lights in the sky is a cinematic tool for alien ships - it has been used in X-Files, ET, Close Encounters and many other Sci-Fi series and films, as soon as our audience see lights in the sky they immedaitely switch from what is it to ok Aliens when am I going to see what they look like and what are they going to do to our characters. The audience is not passive it will not accept the idea of ambiguity - they will create their own ideas from what they have seen elsewhere - we have to remember that the audience is media-literate. If we want to be ambigious over what is coming we need to find new ways of representing it. A light in the sky says alien, a light on the ground - that's maybe supernatural. My point here is if we show lights in the sky - we need to have additional segments that explain away the idea of aliens and on a fairly unstructured film such as this.... What does everyone else think? From a structuralist point of view we need to enrich the scenes with enough red herrings to confuse the audience as to the coming.... Thoughts? Comments? Otherwise its mostly cool.
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Post by Filmmaker82 on Mar 9, 2003 4:17:30 GMT -5
I think Bushy raised an interesting point... we've all agreed that for all of us to make a "light in the sky" segment is a bad idea... HOWEVER, I don't entirely agree with Bushy that if we put a "light in the sky" segment that it would ruin the whole point - I think it does matter HOW the segment shows the light... I agree that simply showing lights in the sky would suggest UFO's and we all know (and agree?) that UFO immediately, whether true or not, constitute for aliens... SOOOO....I think whatever few segments show the actual light and not how people react to it (be it light, storms or whatever phenomena...) should be incerdibly smart, blrry, ambiguous and of course - not suggestive of aliens... I think that people will always jump ahead and try to categorize a film that shows an unexplained phenomena as aliens, and that's exactly why we don't need segments suggesting it. I think that the idea of "maybe it's aliens?" will pop up without any provocation from our side... so people - bare in mind - if you're going to show a LIGHT IN THE SKY, make it extremely special, maybe through cool never-before-seen special effects or maybe through religious iconography that'll shake up the audience's way of thinking...or, maybe you can just go for the less-is-more approach and not show the light in the sky but just people pointing up or looking up like crazy. I think the ida of aliens here goes far beyond shooting or not shooting a "light in the sky" segment, I think we all have to keep in mind that if we restrict our segments to people looking up or pointing up at the sky then everyone is going to think that what ever is coming is coming from the sky and woops - here we have that alien issue again... so...lets try and keep things diverse as possible and if you really think you have a truly ambiguous idea for a light in the sky then shoot it, far be it from me to strangle your creativity but I do think Bushy has raised an interesting point and I'm interested in your opinions. BTW - I received a lot of your ideas and I must say Bushy, a light in the sky is not the most popular suggestion here - so I guess we're in good shape Oded.
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Post by seahorse on Mar 10, 2003 9:57:16 GMT -5
If someone wants to prepare some kind of promotional trailer I can make space for it on Shortkutz Vol. IV (due out in June). I am trying to get material lined up for it by the end of March. The DVD goes out to filmmakers, so, promotionally, it could be a two to three minute plug that says "this is what we're doing and this is how you get involved." Ken www.shortkutzdvd.comThat would be great Ken ! Please mail it to : Filmmaker82@hotmail.com who has the coordination of the project and will decide which material is coming oout to inform the people. Maybe some stuff of the homepage or a link to us would be enough for the first step, as we all are right now in developement. Thanx for the offer ! seahorse
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